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30 Aug 2015 17:57 #97 by Chuck Rosenfeld
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We are engaged in wildfire suppression activities, with more than 25 TFR's in the Pacific Northwest. Unfortunately, several helicopter and aircraft suppression missions had to be cancelled, and the restricted airspace cleared, because of unauthorised drones (including suspected news media) observed in the area. I think the operators of the offending drones should be held accountable for the costs of diverted missions as well as hefty fines... we've suffered enough losses already.

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30 Aug 2015 17:48 #96 by Chuck Rosenfeld
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I live and fly out of Sunriver Airport(S21), where our homeowners association has enacted a drone 'no fly' zone within a 5 NM radius of our airport. Only exception is for public safety when the administrator closes the airspace by NOTAM. Major concerns were aircraft on approach or in traffic pattern, privacy of residents and visitors, and unregulated use by media and realtors. One commercial use was thwarted when the drone 'sensed' the proximity to the airport, and failed to operate.

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16 Aug 2015 16:55 #75 by Super User
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I suspect thT might be initially resolved in the case mentioned. There really does (IMHO) need to be some balance between drone operators rights, the use of airspace, and personal privacy. OTOH, I'm not sure I even know where/how to start thinking about this.

Josef

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11 Aug 2015 21:04 #63 by Ronald Raty
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If I fly one with a camera and remote monitor (like my I-pad), and I fly it into someones backyard to visually poke around uninvited, am I trespassing? If the property owner, thinking I might be "peeping" in his windows, shoots it down with a shotgun, is he liable for the damage to my drone? Those are a couple of many legal conundrums that need to be ironed out.

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11 Aug 2015 08:59 #60 by Super User
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This article on an interesting issue with that particular model addresses some of the social concerns that exist around drones.

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/vide...ore-being-shot-down/

The notion of who owns the airspace above their house may get revisited as the drone topic, er, drones on. (sorry... :blink: )

Also, There's proposals afoot to re-jigger the airspace to have specific segments for drone flight - in the 200-500 foot AGL range. I think Amazon's behind that push.

Lots of changes coming....

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11 Aug 2015 08:52 #59 by Larry Snyder
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I just watched a video on the DJI Phantom 3 Professional. What a machine! It guides itself by GPS and, if GPS isn't available, by sonar and visual recognition! Even without GPS, the drone can hold itself perfectly stable by pinging the ground for altitude and visually looking for movement in the ground below. It has a "takeoff" button and it starts itself up and rises to about 10 feet to hover until the operator takes over. The operator sees the drone's perspective from an iPad or iPhone. It has a "return" button - if you lose it and can't figure out how to get it back, this button will instruct it to return to it's takeoff point and hover at about 3 feet. The come coded to not fly higher than 120 meters, but that can be overridden. Perhaps it shouldn't be. Maybe these things should be forced to have ADS-B by 2020 so that ATC can keep an eye on them! These things are so sophisticated, and have a range of over a mile from the operator, that it is very concerning that these things could easily get in the way of manned aircraft. Perhaps hard limited to under 400 feet, with a built in map that makes them ion within 5 miles of an airport, with professional models that have ADS-B with those limitations removed? Thoughts?

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