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01 Apr 2025 17:31 #1 by Kenneth Crofut
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We have had a few inflight engine out and one actual on the highway landing at KTQH Tahlequah Oklahoma.  The general consensus is carburetor ice. Due point and temperature have been close around here. Glad you are ok.

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01 Apr 2025 06:52 #2 by Diane Bancroft
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Very interesting. My mechanic will be out this week to see what is going on. Yes, it was a little scary. Thankfully there was a big field right below me, so I had time to see what the problem might be.

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31 Mar 2025 21:51 - 31 Mar 2025 21:54 #3 by Brooks McNew
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I can imagine how disconcerting that whole experience was for you. I'm sure we're all really glad that you figured out how to get the engine restarted!

I've got an old key switch that seems to work fine, but after reading about problems with them, I've kept a small wire cutter in a side pocket and I know *exactly* where the p-lead wires are so I can cut them if the ignition stops working for no apparent reason. It helps that my switch is installed near the bottom of the control panel!

I wish we could re-wire the ignition to use two simple toggle switches for the magnetos, like pretty much every twin engine airplane. It's cheaper, simpler, and if someone really wants to steal a plane, the the ignition key isn't stopping them anyway. 
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28 Mar 2025 05:35 #4 by Diane Bancroft
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Thanks for the suggestions. Thinking back, when I did the run up, checking the mags, when I turned the key, it did seem different. Can’t say why, but did seem different. Everything else was normal, so I didn’t give it another thought. Glad it did restart, but not a good feeling.

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27 Mar 2025 23:17 #5 by Keith Whitcomb
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I too would suspect the key switch. It shouldn’t quit like that, and cycling the key switch off/on, points to grounding & ungrounding the mags.

I have no clue as to your alternator issue. Is an audible warning device part of your alternator upgrade? My PlanePower alternator upgrade only has a warning light. I guess you could have it wired up to a buzzer.

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27 Mar 2025 20:56 - 27 Mar 2025 20:57 #6 by Brooks McNew
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Diane - glad you're okay!

I agree with Larry in thinking that an alternator problem wouldn't stop the ignition system.

If this were me, I would be suspicious of the ignition switch. There have been quite a few issues over the years with carbon contamination & worn metal particles inside old ignition switches. Eventually there's enough buildup to conduct electricity... the ignition is suddenly grounded as if you turned the key to "off."

In other cases, the contacts inside the switch wear down so much that they're *never* grounding so even though you turn the key to the off position, the magentos remain "hot" and this has killed/injured a few people (when they turned their prop *with the ignition off* and their engine started unexpectedly) leading to ADs being issued for certain ignition switches.

I tend to think it's not a worn p-lead wire grounding to the airframe, unless they both happen at the same time. Anything is possible though.

The fact that it restarted and ran correctly after you "cycled" the key (maybe disrupting some conductive gunk inside, maybe just jostling an accidentally grounded p-lead out of its grounded condition) makes me really suspicious of the ignition switch.

If I had to guess about why the alternator event happened at the same time... a failing alternator can release a brief high-voltage pulse and maybe that caused a static charge that roused a bunch of carbon dust inside the switch? There's my "conspiracy theory" for the day!
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