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27 Jul 2023 21:51 #13 by David Gilson
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I'm working through the same thing. I ordered the records from faa and started there,
. I identified all the known stc' installed and connected the owners, they were gracious enough to send me the paperwork for the owner who bought it. Some were orphaned and I started field approvals for them. I'm almost done recreating all 9f the paperwork to clean it up. Lots of work, but it was fun.

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07 Jul 2023 22:06 #14 by Matt Gunsch
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If the logbooks are complete, then all STCs should have been entered when they were installed. There should be corresponding form 337s for the STCs. The FAA CD will only have what was sent in to them, I found 337s in my records that the FAA did not have in my planes file, so I sent copies of those in.

If the plane was repaired by a repair station, then they would not be required to file a 337 and repairs are no more than a logbook entry.

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07 Jul 2023 14:42 #15 by Super User
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Missing records are challenging. You now have a gap that only a thorough inspection can overcome without having the risk that repairs/maintenance were not performed properly. That is a risk for you to accept or reject, and would factor heavily into the negotiations. I would consider having the prebuy (at a minimum) include a very detailed inspection – beyond the basics. My experiences with missing/partial logs is that the plane is worth 1/3 to ¾ less than asking. But, that’s your call.

The risk is that sometime after you buy it, an inspection will determine it to be unairworthy at your expense.

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07 Jul 2023 14:09 #16 by Wouter van Tiel
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It would take too long to get the cd directly from the FAA, my pre buy is next week, and I can get the CD from aerospace, the escrow company just the same and they already have the info a part of their title search and can email it to me.

Glad I found out about the cd here and from the FSDO.

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07 Jul 2023 13:47 #17 by Larry Snyder
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Why don’t you get the CD for yourself? It’s $10 on the FAA web site. I wouldn’t hold my breath on MOSAIC.

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07 Jul 2023 13:32 #18 by Wouter van Tiel
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The FSDO rep was able to read back the contents of the disc to me and I recognized a lot of it, as I have docs emailed to me from seller's rep. He might have gotten that from the disc. Aerospace the company that also does escrows gets the disc as part of doing the title search.

So there is a big chance that the docs I have are the official record that the FAA maintains.

The LSA point might become moot as MOSAIC comes in and will change things substantially. It is going to be a formula instead of just gross weight by itself.

The records are what they are and the plane is what it is.

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