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09 Sep 2022 14:44 #1 by Lynn Kramer
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I think that my all metal '46 Coupe is a great bargain compared to most 4 place Cessnas and Cherokees but I think that a comparable 2 seat C150 or Piper Tri Pacer, PA 17 Vagabond are in the same ballpark. There are quite a few nice Citibras around too. I think my Ercoupe is way more handsome and it is useful too. The performance is on par with its peers as well.

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17 Mar 2022 18:53 #2 by Warren Hampton
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No, I didn't mean to imply you called it a poor man's airplane. I said that! because they were on the lower end of the price scale. I was 16 yrs. getting my lic. Being a poor man, with 4 young ones. Oh, and a Bitch of a wife.

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17 Mar 2022 14:21 - 17 Mar 2022 14:26 #3 by Randy Branson
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Warren, I did not say the Coupe was a poor man's airplane. I said just the opposite!! I said I take offense when the other guy (can't find his post now) said it was a poor man's plane. I said it was an EVERY man's plane. I also said the cost of today's new aircraft (Cirrus and Cessna) are ridiculously priced and given those prices, I too AM A VERY POOR MAN. I also said I love my Ercoupe (1st line of second paragraph) and I love flying it around and enjoy getting the attention it gets at out of town airports.

So, please, don't misread what I said in my post. Please reread it.  I LOVE MY COUPE! And PROUD of it!!

By the way...I soloed at 4.1 hours and got my license at 41 hours aback in the day (Oct 15, 1987..my 29th birthday).  My students who applied themselves generally could finish in 42-50 hours (some could have finished quicker but due to the rules of the USAF Aero Club we were at, they had to fly with the chief pilot prior to going for a check ride with the DE and that added 1 to 2 hours).
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17 Mar 2022 13:56 #4 by Warren Hampton
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Randy, thanks for your input! It is a different time for sure. I solo in 5 1/2 hrs. '69 my brother in 4 1/2 hrs. '65. Try and find todays Student to say that. I take exception to your thoughts of poor man's airplane. The Coupe has not until reason keep up value of Champs and J3s, C120s, 140s, and a few others. And as to today's aircraft. Well, most of us are poor men. I do love Coupes, and not a bit shamed to say so. What you never find out is what people get when selling their airplanes. So, it is hard to say it is truly a poor man's airplane.

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17 Mar 2022 09:44 #5 by Larry Snyder
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Matt,

I have the articles now. Thanks! Please submit articles in the future to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. Thanks again!

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17 Mar 2022 08:29 #6 by Randy Branson
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Larry, I think you nailed it right on the proverbial head.  As a "retired" flight instructor, I have to agree with the line of thought that says the younger folks don't want to spend the time and effort to do what it takes to get a certificate and then maintain it.  It's amazing that so many also think they can "fly" because they have a "flight simulator" at home, so why bother to do the real thing.  In the height of my flight instructing (88-92) I had as many as 8 students at a time.  Now days CFIs, from what I see at local airports not associated with huge flight schools like Auburn University, are maybe nursing along 1 or 2 students (age not a factor).  Why?  One reason is what you said, another is the absolutely crazy cost of aircraft rental and purchase, thirdly and unfortunate are the CFIs who string students along for MANY more instruction hours than are actually needed.  (Granted, some students are slower than others and some require more flight time due to infrequency of flight, but I have talked to more than a few students who are approaching 100+ hours and still are not close to a check ride). 

So, what does that all mean?  Probably not much.  But I can tell you, I love my little Ercoupe.  I've only owned it a year now and take offense with the guy who said it was considered a "poor man's airplane".  It is a simple airplane to be sure, one of the reasons it's fun to fly.  It's one that should not cost an arm and a leg to own, correct...it's simple.  It's one that should be relatively easy to maintain (self or A/P), and it is.  But it is by no means one that should be considered a "poor man's" airplane.  But, compared to what a Cirrus or for that matter a Cessna costs nowdays, maybe it is.  I prefer to think of it as "any man's airplane" rather than "poor man's airplane".  My little bird is going though it's first annual since I bought it.  I'm hoping nothing expensive is found, but I'm willing to do what it takes to preserve this little piece of aviation history.  

About the 'Coupe Capers.  I've been a EOC member for little over a year and looked forward to the Capers hitting my mailbox because I could pick up some valuable information.  I understand that you have to work with what you get and I'm happy that there is something being written.  I too would like to see more than the full page EOC fly-in registrations forms and all the advertisements.  But without folks sending you articles it is what it is.  I wish I had more to offer you, but I know there are many "old timers" out there (and by that I mean folks who have owned 'Coupes more than a year or two) who could provide input.  All of us can benefit.  In the absence of that, there are these forums.

Now, on to what you said about putting together a fly-in.  You do a good job!  I missed yours last year because of a line of convective SIGMETS that would not go away between me and you.  I am hoping to bring the wife to this year's fly-in.   I'm in Region 12...I have to go to another Region (yours) to go to an Ercoupe fly-in because nothing is happening in mine. Seems there's nothing happening in most regions either.  So, I congratulate  your efforts and appreciate that you are putting one together for your Region.

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