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- Warren Hampton
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25 Jun 2024 17:18 - 25 Jun 2024 17:25 #13
by Warren Hampton
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Who knows the dif in weight between Alum and wood props? If engine stoppage which would cause more drag? Larry you were talking about wings made me thing About 2000 there was a guy trying to get a new wing design going for Coupes wonder what ever became of that.
Last edit: 25 Jun 2024 17:25 by Warren Hampton. Reason: moe to add
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25 Jun 2024 17:00 #14
by Warren Hampton
Replied by Warren Hampton on topic Wood prop
Well not being an Engineer. I cannot believe ERCO would want to loose anything using a small engine like C85. Wood props were less used by general aviation... Pitch and RPM has more to do with pulling than how long the prop is. And there is an efficiency dif between wood and Alum props also thin vs a club.
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- Ronald Raty
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25 Jun 2024 10:27 #15
by Ronald Raty
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I have seen some arguments that upgrading the engine C-75 to C-85 doesn't gain you much if you have to change to a shorter propeller. The C-75 allows a larger diameter propeller (73, I think), so going to a C-85 may give more HP, but a smaller propeller (71 inch) with less lift area doesn't give much additional thrust. A wood propeller can be as large as 74" diameter.
This all assuming I am reading the Type Cert correctly.
This all assuming I am reading the Type Cert correctly.
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24 Jun 2024 21:19 - 24 Jun 2024 21:24 #16
by Warren Hampton
Replied by Warren Hampton on topic Wood prop
larger jets require a larger venti + more fuel more air. Just basic stuff Contact Vern see if he has an C85 carb. Mac, I am going to look see if I have a good 71 with a 51 pitch. I know I have 48 and 49 there is no change in weigh...
Last edit: 24 Jun 2024 21:24 by Warren Hampton. Reason: more to say
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- Larry Snyder
24 Jun 2024 20:33 #17
by Larry Snyder
Replied by Larry Snyder on topic Wood prop
The carb change assumes a Stromberg. I’m not sure you can make the coupe light enough to make a noticeable difference in its glide. The fat wing pretty much precludes “soaring”. My best glide is 80. Basically, you just have to get used to that green circle around your plane in ForeFlight being real close…
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24 Jun 2024 18:20 #18
by Mac McCormick
Cheers!
"Two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking and two more unaccounted for..." ~Anonymous B-36 Pilot
Replied by Mac McCormick on topic Wood prop
Thank you Larry, very helpful. So if I understand you correctly 75 to 85 is essentially a carb change so weight change N/A but more power and a requirement to change the prop ($3,500 - $5,500) - ish and while wood lightens the overall empty weight it also changes the weight and balance a good bit. What I'd like to do is to lighten as much as possible in order to improve glide rate if at all possible without messing with the W&B. I probably am spoiled by the 150's 70mph glide when doing "power out" and with Tweety it is more like 80 mph to maintain the same 700 fpm descent.
Cheers!
"Two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking and two more unaccounted for..." ~Anonymous B-36 Pilot
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